Do Not Upgrade iLife Before You Read This

January 6, 2009

Most of you know the drill here… it was just announced that Apple has a brand-new version of iLife which includes iWeb so I’m going to need to look at this version to see if it will work with the existing themes I’ve created.

If you MUST have the new iLife today, please do yourself a favor and move your current iWeb application icon OUT of the Applications folder and into another folder where you can save it and continue to use it. That way when you install the new version of iLife, you will have both versions of iWeb available. Unless Apple has some mechanism to find and delete all previous versions of iWeb, this method *should* work. If it does not, please ensure you have a copy in back-up somewhere, either in Time Machine or some other back-up drive. If you do not, then you may lose the ability to update your site until I can recreate all the themes for this version of iWeb.

I’m listening to the keynote right now and will hit the Apple store afterwards to get a copy of iLife. I should know by late afternoon US CST where we stand with this and I’ll keep you posted.

:)

Follow the keynote address at Macworld

NOTE: It was mentioned that iLife would “ship” at the end of the month but it was not said if that’s only online orders. It was not clear if iLife would be in stores today so again, stay tuned. I’ll have it as soon as it’s available, today or end of the month.


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31 Responses to “Do Not Upgrade iLife Before You Read This”

  1. keynoteken wrote:

    Looks like today (or some day closely related to today) is the day! Some people are saying that BestBuy should have copies and the iLife page on the store now says “Add to Cart” instead of pre-order (though the main page still says pre-order).

    Some of our friends across the water already have their copies, so info about what wonderfulness and pitfalls abound should be forthcoming!

  2. Brian Burrow wrote:

    I ordered the day it was announced but my order still shows shipping Feb 2nd… :-(

  3. keynoteken wrote:

    A copy of My domain file is safely ensconsed whithin MobileMe. A Best Buy near me has copies, so I’ll be a guinea pig and let y’all know how it goes.

  4. Suzanne wrote:

    Oooo you guys are on top of things! I didn’t see these until just now 9:47PM CST. I guess I’ll be over at Best Buy in the morning ey?

  5. Brian Burrow wrote:

    Anyone get a copy yet? Mine is supposed to be delivered today, to my work. But, I was sick and didn’t make it in to work today.. Blah, whine, sniff.

  6. Peter Russell wrote:

    I have just upgraded two of my many Macs to iLife ’09 from iLife ’08. Both are running the latest versions of Leopard with all latest updates.

    For reasons of logistics, each Mac maintains a separate iWeb website with all associated files in order to keep everything separated. One Mac publishes a site to my MobileMe account which has domain forwarding and, until today, worked perfectly. The other Mac is used to publish an iWeb site to a local folder and then Cyberduck is used to upload the site to my domain.

    After backing up the domain sites on each Mac, iLife ’09 was installed. On both Macs iWeb ’09 opened each site successfully and I was able to make modifications and save the work.

    However, on the Mac that was formerly used to publish to a local folder, when I did the same thing to check that everything was OK prior to using iWeb ’09 to publish via FTP, I noticed that all the internal hyperlinks had changed to a variation of the URL for my OTHER site on the other Mac, even though the links were correct when checked with the Inspector! However, I was actually able to publish to a local folder; something that I found impossible on the Mac set up to publish to MobileMe.

    On attempting to use the other Mac to publish to my MobileMe account, iWeb ’09 initially created all the new pages, as anticipated, but then threw up an error message “Publish Error – an unknown error occurred”. When attempting to publish to a local folder EXACTLY the same thing happened.

    After repairing Permissions and trashing the iWeb preferences file I was finally able to publish to a local folder, but I still get an unspecified error when trying to publish to MobileMe.

    What is going on and how can I fix it, short of going back to iLife ’08?

    • Suzanne wrote:

      Okay so the first point here is that, correct me if I’m reading this wrong, on the machine where you use FTP, you checked the links with the inspector and found them to be correct after updating to iLIfe 09. But after publishing to to the folder, the published HTML had links structures related to your MobileMe site.

      If that’s correct, then I would have to guess that iWeb is futzing with hyperlinks based on the fact that you’re probably logged-in to MobileMe on that Mac. Now it shouldn’t do that and I have no idea why it would at this point, but it sounds like that’s what it did.

      Try logging OUT of MobileMe on that machine and THEN publish to a folder. See if that changes things.

      The publish error for MobileMe is a long time error that has been showing up ever since that service was available. I’m not the expert on that one, but I know the folks at the Apple iWeb forums keep a running list of possible issues that create that situation. However, considering we’re only a day in to iWeb 3, no one may know yet either.

      The link for the iWeb 3.0 forums is: http://discussions.apple.com/forum.jspa?forumID=1309

      • Peter Russell wrote:

        Hi Suzanne,

        Interestingly, I logged out of MobileMe, rebooted as a precaution and then (on my MobileMe-aimed Mac), decided to publish to a local folder. I published the site a total of three times to different folders and EACH time ended up with only about 90% of the correct contents! Typically around 30Mb of each site was missing, and it wasn’t always the same content either! iWeb ’08 wasn’t totally brilliant, but at least it was consistent!

        So far I have not been able to publish the site to MobileMe at all using iWeb ’09. I still get an unspecified error. Even checking the logs gives no indication of where the problem lies. I’ve fired off a report to Apple but it’s early days yet…

        I do hate it when something that basically works fairly well (iWeb ’08) is “tweaked” and the whole shooting match falls apart. Smacks of poor planning and testing in the real world. However, on the up side, I find iPhoto ’09 to be superb, but haven’t tried iDVD ’09 or iMovie ’09 yet as I don’t want to become too disappointed too soon.

        • Suzanne wrote:

          Are you using one of my themes or one of Apple’s themes?

          • Peter Russell wrote:

            Suzanne,

            I’m using Apple’s themes.

          • Peter Russell wrote:

            After some careful poking about in my MobileMe-published site I noticed that some particular pages were not publishing to a local folder. Upon investigation I discovered that some of the photo albums, whilst appearing in the sidebar in iWeb ’09, did not appear on the main albums page. It seems that, for whatever reason, iWeb ’09 had lost the links to these. I deleted the pages from the sidebar and then turned my attention to Blogs. This was the other area where I noticed that publishing seemed to have a problem.

            One of the problems seemed to be that there was a link to a, by now, ‘lost’ photo album. Editing the link and then re-publishing to a local folder at last cured the problem. I have yet to publish to MobileMe, but at last things are looking good in the ‘test’ phase.

  7. Lance wrote:

    Hi Suzanne,
    I upgraded to iweb09 and didn’t keep a copy of the old version. Not a big deal because I could always do a time machine to restore the older copy. Currently my site is still up and running without any issues. I did notice that the site is now inside of another folder instead of being in the root folder. All other aspects are working correctly. I’m wondering though how do I add new pages? For the moment, I can copy and paste if I need to.

    • Suzanne wrote:

      Are you publishing to MobileMe or your own server? If you’re using your own server, check your FTP URL. You’ve probably specified the name of the site IN the URL and that’s why you have the folder in the root. Just guessing tho.

      Remember to reinstall your templates when you get iLife installed. Then you can add new pages with the theme again.

      • lance burns wrote:

        I publish to my own server. FYI, the built in FTP for iweb 09 is not working at all for me. I have no idea why. As far as I can tell, all users are having the same issue when publishing to a folder or an ftp. The new system I guess is forcing the site into a folder and not the root.

        • Suzanne wrote:

          FTP is working for me without issue. Send me a screenshot of your FTP settings. I’m not sure you’re going to get around the fact it publishes to a sub-folder. iWeb still does not have a setting for you to indicate WHICH of your pages is supposed to be the landing page or the “home” page. Stupid but true. Therefore, what it does is it creates an index.html file with a redirect script to take the user to the first page listed in your site. It has to do it that way because iWeb uses the page names for the literal text in the navigation menu. It can’t go changing your page name to index.html (which is required to be recognized as the landing page).

          Pain in the rear yes. Really, Apple should have fixed this with the release of the FTP functionality.

          They may also be thinking that the very basic of users is going to create all kinds of “sites” and then try to publish them all to the same domain (let’s all roll our eyes now) and so they may be trying to avoid an onslaught of basic user education by simply accommodating that level. They figure you people that have a clue can monkey with it yourselves and make it work the way you want.

          Just an FYI about this for anyone reading… if your web host allows you to host multiple domains under your hosting account, then you have to include the domain name (or the folder name) for the site you’re publishing to, in your FTP settings. For example, I host a number of sites under my web hosting account so for my FTP Directory/Path, I had to actually type: 11mystics.com/demos/

          and not plain old: demos

          or: /demos

          or: /

  8. Tom wrote:

    Well, unfortunately I have found this post in a search to fix my problem, I didn’t read this before upgrading to 09. My iWeb template is broken, in that the photo albums are not being found anymore and it is giving me all kinds of errors. I am currently re-installing iWeb 08, hopefully that will sove the problem. I moved the iWeb 09 to my desktop and it allowed me to re-install just iWeb 08 from the disc.